Kim Kardashian Shares Challenges of Co-Parenting With Ye

Kim Kardashian is discussing the realities of co-parenting with Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, and refuting public opinion that she is keeping her four kids from him. Kardashian, in an open conversation on a recent episode of the “Call Her Daddy” podcast, painted a picture of a situation that is not simple at all, with its emotional balancing acts, silent moments, and absolute determination to protect her kids above everything else.

Kardashian made it clear she has never denied Ye access to their children, North, Saint, Chicago, and Psalm, and that she encourages the relationship with him even when boundaries are required. “They stay with me all the time,” she said, “but I welcome a great, healthy relationship with their father.” She expressed that it goes through “waves and phases” and constant work. Even so, she described how there have been times for months that Ye has not reached out, and this was something she had learned to deal with by thinking of the structure and happiness of the children.

Pushing Back

Throughout the interview, Kardashian pushed back against the narrative suggesting she is the one depriving the kids of their father. This is a particularly frustrating charge to her, she said, especially when Ye makes posts online suggesting that she is trying to isolate him. “It is not kidnapping,” she said. “It is a divorce.” She said that every time Ye has asked to see the children, he has been granted that request, “unless” she thought it was not healthy, then she would suggest alternatives, such as visits at her house.

Her frustrations defended to that also include the other narratives. She discussed how difficult it is to see Ye say negative things publicly, not only about her, but also about her family. She has often drafted posts in retort to statements made by him and has had the urge to hit back, but instead has chosen to hold back, because of her children. “What’s the point?” she said, saying her focus was upon the long game, to maintain respect and emotional stability of the children.

Walking Away from Instability

Kardashian also gave a little more insight into why she unburdened herself from the marriage entirely. It was not only because of the public behavior online, and public disagreements, but also a more intangible sense of emotional and financial instability, of which Ye occasionally gave voices to, she recounted, remembering particularly an episode when Ye gave away their Lamborghinis without any forewarning. “Each morning you don’t know what you will get,” she said. That presence of instability weighed heavy upon her, and so she chose to walk away.

She said the feelings accompanying that were also heavy. She spoke of how even her daughter North was able to pick up upon her downtrodden non-appearance or emotions, jokingly thought to be a need for a need to go off upstairs and cry. But Kardashian would talk about that with a smile, “No. I am going upstairs to get a massage.” It was a telling moment depicting the fine line she attempts to walk between thinking perhaps merely of trying to keep the kids away from negativity, trying to seem calm and induce that calm in her own ways, and learning by her own efforts to go forward without letting the chaos of the world now obscure the happy present in its games.